tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post4854284045057962674..comments2023-09-08T04:38:55.306-04:00Comments on The Heron Clan: Marriage EqualityUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-8033575612367440912013-04-03T02:53:23.174-04:002013-04-03T02:53:23.174-04:00Would you prefer that folks use the term Polygamy ...Would you prefer that folks use the term Polygamy as opposed to Plural marriage? I am sure that tying gay marriage to Polygamy would make gay marriage all kinds of more palatable to the unwashed masses...<br /><br />I am not suggesting that we leave *anyone* behind... I am merely suggesting that at the moment, getting gay marriage rights is the thinner end of the wedge, and that trying to do it all in one fell swoop is like trying to split a log with a sledge hammer and no wedge at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-47927630457136284782013-04-03T02:38:11.312-04:002013-04-03T02:38:11.312-04:00If the proponents of plural marriage had been work...If the proponents of plural marriage had been working as hard as the proponents of gay marriage have been working to get this chance, I would say yes, by all means, let us do just that...<br /><br />...the problem of course, is that most of the proponents of plural marriage are members of the LDS who for most of that time would have gone out of their way to condemn anyone from the LGTBQ community.<br /><br />By all means, let us re-evaluate, but at this point it would be a matter of trying to ride in on someone else's coattails.<br /><br />...if the victory was assured? Sure, no problem... pile on, but the victory is far from won, and until it is we need to take our victories one step at a time, instead of trying to overreach ourselves in dragging our less enlightened brothers and sisters into the current era.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-45392774475082632092013-04-03T01:20:38.121-04:002013-04-03T01:20:38.121-04:00I haven't researched it but I don't think ...I haven't researched it but I don't think there are anything like the numbers in poly relationships that there are in same-sex relationships. Can you quote figures, sue? So if there are fewer, there's going to be less noise.Malcolmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18156162412655551672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-70414093641851235852013-04-02T14:16:58.138-04:002013-04-02T14:16:58.138-04:00I'm so sorry that you're getting the type ...I'm so sorry that you're getting the type of feedback you are, swan. I don't have many friends in the poly community, so I haven't had much discussion about how "plural marriage" (I dislike that term) would be affected by any decisions made on the gay marriage front. While they are two distinctly separate issues, the kind of thought process needed to accept one is also needed to accept the other. I have a feeling that the reason poly marriage hasn't been talked about as much, is that the poly folks just don't tend to make as much noise as the queer folks do.<br /><br />One battle at a time, sure, but let's all try to remember not to leave our comrades behind.ZarahPDXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15563241584067541083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-71608994756950997142013-04-02T14:12:11.625-04:002013-04-02T14:12:11.625-04:00Well clearly since plural marriage already had its...Well clearly since plural marriage already had its turn, we don't need to re-evaluate. Not much has changed in the past hundred years anyway.ZarahPDXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15563241584067541083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-45268573907807636122013-04-02T11:32:27.442-04:002013-04-02T11:32:27.442-04:00Actually, plural marriage was quite common in the ...Actually, plural marriage was quite common in the Bible, so from the plural marriage perspective, they don't have a leg to stand on. <br /><br />The closest the bible comes to a command on the subject is to say that if someone is going to go into the pastoral ministry that he should be "the husband of one wife"... but that only applies to pastors, not to the general population, and it goes to show that at the time, plural marriage was common enough that they thought they needed to make a rule about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-58235251134366915122013-04-02T11:17:24.165-04:002013-04-02T11:17:24.165-04:00While I support LGBTQ marriage *and* plural marria...While I support LGBTQ marriage *and* plural marriage, I also support the idea of not muddying the waters. <br /><br />The plural marriage question already had it's day in court over a hundred years ago, and it would be a shame to see them throw out LGBTQ marriage question because it got back-door bundled with something that would be so easily discounted by the majority. I don't see it as being "thrown under the bus", so much as taking the matter one step at a time.<br /><br />Personally, I would like to see the government get out of the marriage business *entirely* and deal with being a normative agent in interpersonal affairs at the same level that they are in the business community, and just as anyone that chooses to can form a corporation, any group that chooses to could file Articles of Incorporation and choose to co-mingle their assets as they see fit - as defined in their charter - and receive the same legal protections that we currently reserve to the institution of marriage.<br /><br />"Marriage" could still exist, but it would be defined socially or religiously (depending on the individual or group that was referencing it) rather than on governmental grounds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-80939035300811925102013-04-02T10:57:28.809-04:002013-04-02T10:57:28.809-04:00Not that the Bible should be our automatic go-to s...Not that the Bible should be our automatic go-to source for social issues.)Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14206279041514562752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-3334635743709814232013-04-02T10:56:07.108-04:002013-04-02T10:56:07.108-04:00According to Lawrence O'Donnell (I haven't...According to Lawrence O'Donnell (I haven't actually read the bbok) there is no place where the Bible says "marriage is between one man and one woman," which one reason the right can never actually cite a biblical text in support of their claim that one (and only one) form of marriage is biblically mandated.Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14206279041514562752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18440943.post-44348663461442428802013-04-02T10:14:42.160-04:002013-04-02T10:14:42.160-04:00Hope so swan!
Hugs,
mouseHope so swan! <br /><br />Hugs,<br />mousemousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17837530120535693314noreply@blogger.com