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12/26/2007

BDSM and Domestic Discipline -- Questions

I have found myself involved in an e-mail dialog that is ranging across a breadth of topics. Recent exchanges, however, have focused on a rather off-hand comment I made that, in my experience, many BDSM'ers find the practice of Domestic Discipline appalling. That throwaway comment of mine brought a whole series of questions back, and led me to write the following (slightly edited for form) piece in response:

In response to your questions and comments about the differences and similarities between DD and BDSM, and the perceptions (about one another) in the two "camps," lets be clear that speaking for all BDSM'ers or all DD'ers is, by definition, an exercise in talking in HUGE generalities, and therefore questionable by its very nature. Still, there is, in my experience, a sense of bewilderment/bemusement in the BDSM community when they encounter Domestic Discipline. It really does seem that their response is the counterpart to the lack of understanding that I find in the DD community for BDSM practices.

It is probably fair to ask why some BDSMers find DD appalling?

Because of my history, I cross the lines between the two groups. I was a "DD'er" before I was a full-fledged "BDSM'er." I found my way into spanking through the gateway marked "Domestic Discipline." It is where I started out. I came to BDSM, and my eventual self-identification as submissive/slave, and masochist, later. What I knew/learned when I first began to explore my desire for spanking and control inside of my intimate relationships, I learned in the Domestic Discipline realm. So, that was my earliest exposure and vocabulary. To me, it made a kind of sense - at least in the beginning. My struggle with it was that I am submissive enough that if the rules were put in place to be and do (or not do) certain things in certain ways, then I worked intently and consistently to implement that. For me, that was about integrity and relational honesty. Very quickly, the need for discipline evaporated in my life - although my need for spanking didn't. Hence, the eventual move to explore other aspects of BDSM.


The simple truth for me is that I AM this way. It isn't something I do for fun or thrills (although there is certainly some element of fun and sexual excitement in what we do). It is my belief that there are all kinds of people who find their way into BDSM, but that, if we talk about experienced, sincere, serious BDSM practitioners, then most of those people are going to have some understanding that what drives their practice is something essential to their identity, and an elemental part of their sexual and erotic orientation. They understand that the kinds of relational dynamics that are found within the context of BDSM are connective, personally empowering (even when there may be control ceded for some individuals), and life enhancing.


I think that what causes some BDSM practitioners to be troubled by Domestic Discipline is the perception that it is a model that is founded in a cycle of establishing rules which are intended to be broken such that there can be repeated cycles of punishment. Honestly, the entire cycle is perceived as grim and damaging. Either that, or it is viewed as a bizarre sort of game aimed at creating a spanking environment without really acknowledging that as the goal. In that event, it seems a bit disingenuous (at the very least). Even among those who "play" with disciplinary-based scenarios, or who (like us) incorporate discipline within our dynamics, there is generally an assumption that true discipline is a sometimes necessary but rare, emotionally difficult, and the least enjoyable aspect of our relating to one another.
I realize that some of those (BDSM community) judgments may be erroneous and based on misperceptions and a lack of experience with real, functioning, healthy DD relationships. In that regard, those in the BDSM community who look askance at Domestic Discipline make the same mistakes about their evaluation of it as a relationship dynamic as the folks on the DD side of the spectrum so often do with regard to their BDSM brothers and sisters.

I always find that lack of basic understanding between these two "factions" interesting, because it seems so clear to me that they are related. It seems so obvious to me that Domestic Discipline is simply a "subset" of BDSM -- one of many variations. Still, over and over, I've been asked why I feel that way. The answer to that question begins simply, and then gets a little deeper...

At the most prosaic level, the letters in the acronym "BDSM" stand for a range of erotic/sexual/relational behaviors or practices: Bondage - Discipline - Dominance - Submission - Sadism - Masochism. I know of only a very few people within the lifestyle who actually participate in all the various parts of that list. I do know a whole lot of people who do some of those things within the context of their power exchange based relationships. In my view, the common thread is always that we all practice deliberate forms of relational power exchange. Some of us incorporate bondage but not sadomasochism. Some of us favor discipline dynamics without particular reference to dominance or submission. Others are "into" sadomasochistic eroticism and do not focus on the discipline aspect. There are relationships that are primarily service oriented but have no bondage or sadomasochistic elements. The point is that it is ALL BDSM. You do not have to do it all to be doing it. I've never found anyone who specializes in the very lovely practice of Shibari rope bondage that will claim that they are not into BDSM. They know that they are practicing out on one of the corners of the lifestyle, and that is all fine and good. It seems that it is only the Domestic Discipline wing of the family that insists that they are not "us." I've been through that discussion more times than I can count; been kicked off more than one online discussion forum precisely because I dared to give voice to the ultimate heresy: that DD is just a subset of BDSM. It does seem to make a certain segment of the DD world a bit crazy. I think it is entirely due to the image that we BDSM'ers have - that leathered up, fetished out, whip and chain-toting bunch of perverts that no sane, healthy, reasonable, responsible, "nice" person wants to be connected with. Never mind that many of those overheated images are directly from the porn industry, and have next to nothing to do with the real lifestyle; I am not ever going to convince the "Susie-Housewife-who-just-wants-her-HOH-to-spank-her" that it really isn't like that. To tell you the truth, I don't care what anyone wants to think about it all. Denying that DD is a subset of BDSM is (as Himself would say) like claiming that a Chevrolet is not an automobile. It is just silly.

No matter what kind of label you try to hang on your flavor of BDSM, it is about power exchange. Period.What different people then DO within the power exchange is as unique as the people who do it. It doesn't require a marriage license. It doesn't require a collar. It doesn't require that the partners live together fulltime. It doesn't require spanking, bondage, rules, piercings, boot blacking, service, sex, etc. It might involve just about any of those things -- or a whole list of other practices that I haven't listed -- but there is really only one place where ALL the various practices come together... That is in the realm of consensual, deliberate, intentional power exchange. While all human relationships / interactions involve power dynamics, what we do is done with conscious intent. That requires that there be individuals, aware of their own personal power, choosing to share and exchange that power in some intentional and defined fashion. There are an almost infinite number of structures for how that might be accomplished. Sometimes, that power exchange is very, very temporary, and at other times, it is intended to be permanent with regard to the lifetimes of the partners.

I believe that ALL of the conversations and battles that we get into about who is within the circle of BDSM, and then who is more or better or truer or whatever than anyone else is simply our natural urge to establish a "pecking order" among ourselves. We are, at the heart of it all, social animals. It is almost more than we can do to keep ourselves from that business of trying to establish (even if it is only in our own minds) which of us are further up the hierarchy. So. Yes. DD and BDSM go together, just like Lipton is, of course tea. They aren't the same, but they surely aren't entirely different either

swan

7 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:25 PM

    Really very thought provoking Swan! I appreciate you sharing your ideas and I have attempted to explain some of my thoughts on my blog.

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  2. I love this post, Swan. Those types of debates (as well as real vs not real and slave vs sub) always entertain me.

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  3. I really think you've done an excellent job articulating this Swan! And I agree with you. DD is a mild subset of BDSM. I'd like to take some time and formulate some coherent thoughts (but my kids are running wild!) - then I'll come back and comment. Again, great post!

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  4. Anonymous1:35 PM

    I posted this on Finding Sara in response to her post on her Blog in this same discussion. In that I am sure our readership dosn't overlap 100%, I decided to post it here as well. Swan helped me copy and paste what I wrote on Finding Sara to a word doc and then get it to transport here. While it was in Word I spell chaecked it and am quite embarrassed at the number of misspellings and typos in the version I have at Sara's Blog and apologize to her for the poor editorial quality of what I put there.

    So here it is:

    It has been interesting watching you and my swan have this exchange. It has been at least a couple of years since we have gone over this. I have over the years done various reiterations of this discussion, many of them are archived on the 1 Domestic Discipline Listserv where "pure DD'ers" would become appalled and even at times offended were anyone to insist that their squeaky clean DD practices could ever be perceived by anyone to be sullied by any thought that they were somehow to any degree related to as degenerate a practice as BDSM. BDSM was nasty pornographic and my goodness some of its practitioners didn't even go to church. We used to jokingly call DD "vanilla spanking."

    I have held for a long time that BSDM is a generic overarching term. The original the acronym BDSM when it first became common about 25 years ago was an abbreviation of the four words Bondage Discipline Sadism and Masochism. There was an identifiable set of people who were involved in practices that included one or more of these areas. Over time the D/s (domination / submission) aspects of the relationships that formed around these practices came to be included in the mix of descriptors within the BDSM acronym, and since the first letters of those two descriptors fit within the letters “DS” already in the acronym, it became common to include some mixed combination of the terms bondage, discipline, domination, submission, sadism, and masochism within the definition of BDSM.

    It is commonplace for those who are stigmatized by their orientation to look at the six descriptors frequently attributed to BDSM and say, "well I only do two of those, or three, or one or whatever so I don't do BDSM." I have known some very experienced, and in some cases, renowned BDSM practitioners and I have never known one who engaged in all the practices of BDSM. Were one to uphold that standard there would be no BDSM practitioners. BDSM would be some sort of interesting sensual erotic myth. The fact that you Sara, perceive that three of the aspects of DD fall consistently within the six major facets of BDSM is in fact the basis of the argument that DD is in fact a specific practice of BDSM.

    I've often found it interesting that one of the paramount and indisputable facets of BDSM is the "D" word: Discipline, and yet practitioners of discipline within their domestic household find it to be foreign somehow. The undeniably most universal practice within BDSM is adult consensual spanking....the cornerstone of BDSM. Yet there is this community of spanking enthusiasts who deny they are related to BDSM. For DD not to be part of BDSM is like arguing that a Chevrolet is not a General Motors product because it doesn't have all the exact characteristics of all other models and makes of General Motors products.

    I love spanking and have practiced consensual spanking of adults much of my (now becoming somewhat prolonged:) adult life. My favorite style of spanking is disciplinary as opposed to playful or purely erotic or role playing or whatever other variation. I can and do perform the others, but I adore giving someone a spanking that is like what one would receive as severe punishment, better yet if it is to achieve some real behavioral, emotional, or spiritual purpose. Thus when I encountered DD I was very taken with it and still am. I too am very much a practitioner of BDSM and identify as part of the BDSM community.

    The BDSM community is not an amorphous mass of folks who strive to be like each other or to adhere to a set of similar practices. While there is much about BDSM that deals with some common principals regarding consent of the party’s involved, safe practices etc. It is as diverse a community as any other cross section of human society is.

    DD on the other hand has always seemed to me to want to somehow develop sort of a unified practice that "their people” aspire to adhere to. The whole HOH / submissive wife paradigm seems often to me to be almost codified. If BDSM and DD were like religions, I would see BDSM as being like a body of study of religions of the world and DD as being sort of like a literal interpretationist evangelical Christian sect where one either adheres to a specific code of beliefs and practices or is simply "wrong" to the extent that one deviates from that defined pathway.

    The topic of masochism frequently enters into these discussions. A typical response is to point out that they do not "enjoy" pain, thus they are not masochists, thus they are not practicing BDSM, because to practice BDSM would mean they enjoy pain. Masochists are not possessed of some magic autonomic elixir whereby the sensations the rest of us experience as pain somehow come to feel pleasurable to them. When I place swan in the stocks and lash her with our signal whip believe me she screeches in pain, and has no mistake that she is not experiencing what she would feel were I to instead use a rabbit skin glove to stroke her back. Now she may well be turned on by my doing that, she may become emotionally centered due to my taking control and realigning her phenomenology by blistering her, she may occasionally become so awash in endorphins the pain of her spanking creates in her that she becomes intoxicated by her own opiate peptides and goes off into the state of endorphin intoxication referred to generically as "subspace", or she may simply hate and despise the whole experience and just be soundly whipped because she is mine and I have that prerogative whenever it pleases me to do so.

    Masochism is not so much that one transmutes pain sensations to pleasure as it is that one derives gratification from experiences that engender pain in ways that others would find nothing but trauma in. If the majority of women were taken over their husbands' knees and had their bottoms blistered because their husband decided it was good for their relationship, they would be experiencing domestic violence. They would be assaulted. They would be traumatized. They might well have their husband arrested and jailed and they should do so by rights. If however you receive emotional gratification and/or even arousal from that same practice and have granted carte blanche consent for him to do that whenever he feels it is appropriate, you are experiencing gratification from that experience albeit at a purely emotional and relational level. Ergo, you are a masochist.

    The bottom line on all this is that for me I will likely always believe the DD community's need to deny its being a practice of BDSM is a function of denial. That in and of itself is really not that important. So who cares what you call your practices if they enhance your life? Quite frankly the semantic correctness is unimportant, unless that reaction formation against BDSM relates to your feelings about yourself. I found it interesting that as you wound your way through swan's response to you, you found yourself questioning if you or your relationship were somehow flawed or even pathological because of your needs. HAVING AN ORIENTATION TO BDSM/DD, OR DD, OR bDDsm, OR WHATEVER ELSE SO LONG AS IT IS NOT HARMUL, IS MUTUALLY CONSENTUAL, AND ENHANCES YOUR LIVES AND RELATIONSHIP, NO MATTER HOW UNIQUE, DOES NOT MAKE YOU FLAWED. IN FACT YOU ARE BLESSED TO HAVE FOUND IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I hope you will find your commenters way more succinct in the future.

    Tom

    Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you've imagined.

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  5. Anonymous1:37 PM

    ROFL, looking at my introduction to the preceding comment I misspelled "spell checked." How's that for irony. An old dyslexic like me should never undertake to type:)

    Tom

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  6. Anonymous8:01 PM

    Hey Tom, I edited your response on my blog for spelling. What would we do without spell check? Sara

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  7. A very eloquent post, swan. I enjoy both your blog and Sara's, although I consider my lifestyle to be aligned with bdsm and not with D/d. Sara is gradually unravelling the mysteries of D/d for me and I find it fascinating.

    Hugs,
    Hermione

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