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2/16/2009

Raw

People ask questions; about slavery, about limits, about polyamory, about all the ins and outs and details of our lives. We work to answer honestly posed questions. It is an investment of our time and our energy. Sometimes, it requires that we dig deep into areas that many people would consider to be private. We expose ourselves here. We are vulnerable here. It can be terribly hard to do.

This last round of questions, about slavery, about limits, about polyamory, pushed me into my own, personal morass of worry and doubt and fear and frustration. So, as I wrote about all the various bits and pieces of this, as the conversation proceeded, it was my own rawness that I was poking into...my fears.

I think that, because we write and talk pretty openly and freely about all of this, it seems to people who look in from the outside that it is easy, stress-free, painless. It happens more often than not -- people who read, who stop by here on their rounds in the cyber-neighborhood, just figure they know us, and never ever contemplate that they are pawing around in things that are tender, not finished, not tidy, not easy.

I think that people who live more "normal" kinds of lives just assume that we are "the same as them, only different." They think that we value the same things, see things the same way, share the same rights, experience the same social situations. It is easy for conversations that start off as apparently friendly and curious and open to turn judgemental and hurtful with just a turn of phrase -- just a word here or there, a shift in tone. When that happens, a relationship that previously felt good can turn pretty sour pretty fast. It hurts.

The reality is that I am not now, and don't expect to ever be, entirely easy with a more open form of poly than what we now do -- the family that includes the three of us. I understand and accept that it is His desire and dream to add more people to our family. I don't like that. It doesn't make me happy. It scares me. When I am talking my way through ideas like "compersion" and the "naturalness" of living in poly relatedness, I am talking to myself. I am gathering support and advice that I can hopefully use. I am not "trying to justify" anything. To anyone. I am working. Hard. Trying to practice what I will someday have to live. When I discuss limits that are not "mine" but His, I am not talking about some imaginary abstract impossibility. I am looking into my future and hoping to develop the skills that I'll surely need to live up to agreements I take very seriously. Often, because of the nature of this place, I share what I am learning, the things I am pondering here. If any of that is helpful, that's good. If it doesn't resonate, or doesn't apply, or just doesn't make sense to readers, that's fine, too -- just move along. You are not invited to try and argue with me in that event. Don't judge. It causes me pain, and it makes me angry. Just go quietly away. Please.

I don't spew my doubts all over this place. I seldom discuss them with anyone. It isn't germane and it isn't important -- it just doesn't matter. The fact that you don't see them here doesn't mean I don't have them. It doesn't mean I'm so thick skinned that I cannot be hurt.

Right now, I'm hurt. No more questions. Not for awhile.


swan


20 comments:

  1. Anonymous1:02 PM

    I'm sorry you are hurting.

    Wanna come over and LOL at Jesus instead? ;-)

    kaya

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  2. Anonymous2:07 PM

    swan,

    i'm sorry you were hurt and i hope the sting of it will soon subside.

    i keep deleting my thoughts but i guess that sums it up. while i appreciate the opportunity of enlightenment that your family's very intimate blog offers, i do not wish for you to be hurt in the process. so take care, whatever that may mean.

    melissa

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  3. kaya-- I already did join in with your fun stuff. Thanks for putting it out there. How did you know I was needing some lightness today?

    swan

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  4. melissa -- it isn't you.

    swan

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  5. I'm sorry you're hurting, swan. Sometimes people can be amazingly insensitive; they forget that there are living, breathing, complicated and intricate human beings behind the words. I know that I do and have admired the honesty you and your family offer to your online friends - certainly you are braver in many ways than I am.

    Be well and don't let the Muggles hurt you.

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  6. Anonymous3:03 PM

    Looks in and leaves a box of soft hugs and my snuggle blanket.

    You know I've always admired the way you put yourself out there, I've said so in the past. You explain in the most open and honest way what, for many, is a difficult concept to understand.

    There is a huge variety of postings here.... educational, diary pieces, life stuff you share and, as you say, the pieces where you're 'working it through'.

    I'm sure we all come across blogs where the relationships being described within them wouldn't work for us. I know I do....and often its where the 'submissive' partner seems to be the one in control. Thats MY issue to deal with. While I might occasionally pose a question in a genuine bid to understand on those blogs, it would be completely inappropriate for me to judge. It is for any of us.

    When we come across another's lifestyle and our first thought is 'that wouldn't do for me'....our second thought should be 'but it isn't me....its them' and if those people seem genuinely happy, then it should be a case of live and let live.

    Nothing makes me more sad that, in a community where all we want is to be accepted, we are all too ready to judge others.

    I am sorry this has happened to you and that, in feeling judged, you also feel hurt. Just remember sweetheart....this too will pass. Its yours and Tom's and T's life, no one elses. And for those of us who come here with open hearts and minds you do a fantastic job of sharing it with us. I, for one, am always grateful for that.

    lots of love and hugs xxx

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  7. Anonymous5:17 PM

    I am sorry that you are hurting. Hugs...

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  8. Anonymous6:02 PM

    Swan,
    I am sorry that you are hurting.

    I hope have a better rest of the week.

    Take care

    Sharon

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  9. Anonymous6:06 PM

    oops! Sorry-
    That should have been... I hope you have a better rest of the week.

    Sharon

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  10. Hi Swan and family

    I don't think I have ever commented here before, though I have thought a lot about what you write about and even written about you a little in my own blog.

    I found your blog a while ago, but recently I have spent some time going back through earlier entries and reading lots of them. I am fascinated by what you have to say.

    I do not live a life like yours, but I did have a working poly relationship for a year or so and I know how hard it can be (and how wonderful). When I try to imagine adding the overlay of D/s onto that, with a Dominant who wishes to add more people, I suspect it might look a lot like your relationship.

    It seems to me that you are thinking out loud here on your blog. And that therefore you won't always be certain or consistent or sure of all the things you say. You, like the rest of us, are a work in progress. Your thoughts change a little every day, evolving to adapt to the world around you, which includes your relationship.

    Your self-examination and honesty makes you vulnerable to attacks both intended and unintended. I hope you can see that they also make friends for you, including some of those who otherwise would just lurk.

    I hope you don't stop sharing,

    sin

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  11. Selkie -- Muggles. Hah! I am not a Harry Potter fan -- had to go Google "muggles" to figure out where the word originated. I assume muggles are some sort of difficult critter... Anyway, I like the image, and thank you for your kind words.

    m:e, Dear -- Hugs. I am not even sure that the judgement was intended AS judgement. I suspect it was reactive and not really contemplated. Maybe that makes it better. Maybe.
    Whatever, I'll continue to write as I have for a very long time. I'll just be more cautious about ones who come looking for answers to their questions when all they really are after are ways to prove themselves right...

    kitten and Sharon -- thank you. I'll be ok. Just feeling bummed out at the moment.


    sin -- nice to "meet" you. Thanks for choosing to delurk. You are right that I spend some significant amount of time here just thinking out loud with myself. What others take from that is up to them. I am really not trying to convince anyone else most of the time.

    swan

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  12. Anonymous9:14 PM

    I too am very sorry you are hurting. I am relatively new to blogging, and everytime I "publish" a new post, I feel very naked and vulnerable. I love to come here and read your blog, because of the love and devotion poured out on your posts, and that is to me what is most important in life. Love and devotion has many many different images and ways of manifesting in this world, and I wish we could all just admire these beautiful differences in how we express our love rather than judge them.
    Take care
    AG

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  13. Anonymous2:46 AM

    swan,

    yes, i knew that. :) i was trying to say that although many of us may appreciate the sharing by your family, i hope you will do what is necessary to protect your privacy and your feelings.

    melissa

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  14. I like how pixiepie puts it...a snap shot...a moment in a blog post that's described in great detail is simply a snap shot. Very often there's a great deal that's not revealed or perhaps its all out there in the open, but it was released as soon as the publish button was pushed...

    Its a snap shot. And there's a great deal of life in there which is totally not seen. People so easily forget this.

    I don't know what's been going on with the conversation about poly stuff of late. I've been hibernating...avoiding bloggy Valentine's Day conversations and plans and all that jazz...because I feel scroogy and isolated and I don't feel able to come out of my silence even if that wasn't the date...but I know for sure that you are/were brave and that writing here is a process of getting into agreement and into your glory and into your soul and strength within your relationship.

    Breathe deeply my friend...The moment will pass and in time you'll be able to speak of these fears you carry about what the future holds. Its a very challenging way to have a relationship and you do it with a great deal of dignity and beauty.

    ((hugs))

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  15. I am newish to your blog and I just wanted to say how brave I see you as. Truly.

    Thank you for taking time to share the "allness" of your family. I will enjoy reading your archives.

    And...as another "outcast" of sorts...who also gets tired at times of dealing with others' reactions to who I am...I'll remind you that whenever someone is judging, one finger points out, three back.

    That doesn't make it any easier in the moment, but sure does help me in the long run.

    Take care.

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  16. Anonymous10:04 PM

    Oh, Swan, I am sorry that life left me unable to check in until now. I'm very sorry my questioning lead to pain for you. I honestly was not judging you or your life in any way. I meant to compliment what I felt was your strength. Your openness was such an opportunity for me to learn that I never stopped to think about the cost to you. Again, I gain so much from what you share, and I'm sorry I hurt you.

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  17. As everyone else has already said, I'm sorry that you have felt hurt. Your blog is a place where I come to listen to your heart and allow your journey to help me on my own journey. I thank you for your open sharing and honesty.
    warm hugs and much Peace,
    Tapestry

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  18. Anonymous6:46 AM

    Swan,
    I dashed off a really fast comment last night when I didn't have a chance for real thought because I had just snuck on for a quick peak at your blog and was so dismayed to find out from your post how you felt about the recent discussion and exchange. I guess because I live in the mainstream, I do underestimate how raw and painful the places can be that I can stumble into when I think we're just discussing the differences in our lives - not the comparative values - just the differences. You write with such ease and grace that you do make it look easy, and so I just think of us as having different types of families like "kids or no kids" and I wondered how you did it. I now know you feel just like me, and that I went and stomped on your flowers. I'm sorry for that; it's sometimes hard to read signals here in blogland, and I didn't mean to overstep boundaries. I will try to be more careful in the future. I hope you feel better soon...

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  19. Andrades, Gillette, Greenwoman, Tapestry, and Impish -- Thank you each for your words of understanding and compassion. You have given me images and ideas that are helping me shape how I am feeling about this beyond the hurt and anger.

    None of you created the situation to which I was responding here, yet each of you, in your own way has reached out to take some bit of responsibility for our shared dialog. That is a wonder to me.

    I do tend, sometimes, to forget that in talking to myself here, I am also talking to multitudes. When I lose track of that reality, it is easier for someone to sneak in under the radar and kick me in the shins. I know a shin kick isn't life threatening, but it hurts like the dickens, and somedays I am just not as resilient as I maybe should be. I'll be fine. Thanks for all the good words.

    swan

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  20. Anonymous8:37 PM

    Hello Swan... I often lurk at your blog and some others, and I wanted to tell you how sorry I am that you were feeling hurt and perhaps misunderstood. I've been wanting to tell you that I think your honesty, and Kaya's, and This Girl's, and that of many others, is just amazingly wonderful to me, and I am so appreciative of it. You go out of your way to share of yourself, and I think that is very brave and loving. It takes a lot of courage to do that I think, and it's something I admire and appreciate. Through your words and descriptions of your life and what it is like to be in your life, I've become far more open, accepting, knowledgeable, and respectful of people... and not just people in the kinky world either. As I read about the variations and experiments and experiences and all that makes up each of your lives, I can feel my mind broaden and stretch, and really... there is little better than that. What I'm trying to say is that by sharing yourself as bravely as you do, I know you open yourself up to pain, but I did want to tell you that at least for me, you've added something immeasurable and glorious, and I thank you for that. :) ScaredyCat

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