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1/18/2006

I'm Not Going to Answer That Question, But...

Alright. An anonymous commenter on the last post asked the question that comes up every now and then when people wonder about our poly lifestyle. I actually suspect that it is one of the first questions that people think, but one that most people are too polite (generally) to actually ask:

"I was wondering who does your Master sleep in your bed each night? Or does the
days of the week dictate if your master sleeps in your bed or T's bed?"
It isn't a question that I'm going to answer. That's private.

I will, however, share some information about some of what we do and do not do about sleeping, cuddling, and sexual relating -- and the "real estate" arrangements that go with all of that, because I think that it is useful for those who are trying to think about living in poly households. I know that, when we were first contemplating living together fulltime, there were many of these questions that we had, and precious little practical information. So, with that in mind, here are some practical realities of our lives in the "bedroom" arena...

  • Sleeping is an activity to be distinguished from cuddling which is different from more actively sexual activities. The terms should not be interchanged in thinking about the uses of "bedroom real estate" or the time that people spend there.
  • As a practical matter, all the beds in our household are "Master's." He sleeps where He chooses, when He chooses, with whomever He chooses.
  • We purchased, early on, a king-size bed because we thought we would all sleep together. We quickly learned that our diverse sleep styles do not lend themselves to our comfortably, or restfully doing that. We very seldom all sleep together for any length of time that is more extensive than a nap.
  • We do not divide our time "in bed" with one another up by means of a calendar or a clock. Nor do we make anyone into a bedroom "nomad," forcing the continual wandering from one bed to another. We find that we are all more comfortable with more or less settled sleeping arrangements (dictated largely by "sleeping style" and schedules), and the use of bedroom spaces for cuddling and more sexual activities when and as we choose to employ them in that fashion.
  • We find that when one of us wants or needs "bedroom" time with a partner, it is just simplest to ask for what is wanted. This is, for us, much easier than the establishment of calendars and schedules.

There. Not difficult. Three grown ups living and caring for one another in a poly/power exchange household. It might be tougher if there were children -- maybe. But we haven't got that issue to worry about. For us, the biggest quandary is which of the neighbors is likely to catch which one of us traipsing back and forth in our PJ's on any given morning. Keeps them guessing, but as long as we are OK, the wagging heads are not our concern.

swan

15 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:07 PM

    "I'm not going to answer that question..."

    seems kind of odd if you are all okay with everything. Apparently he sleeps with you then. And apparently you don't really live together if you are traising about in your PJs...

    So he lives with you and T lives in the neighborhood?

    And who sleeps with whom is some big secret of the poly family?

    Because didn't you just explain he has a sleep machine? And thus you sleep with him?

    why the big..."i am not going to answer that question" then ?

    I mean you blog about your relationship but who sleeps where is like a secret?

    I don't get it.

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  2. Well anonymous, you'll have to "get" what you "get" I guess. The CPAP machine is quite portable and can move wherever I sleep (my goodness you really weren't so "bright" as to think CPAP was really a new Dominant person were you......actually!!!!?).

    As for our living in the neighborhood, as we've described numerous times before, we live in two side by side condo's with front and back doors about a dozen feet apart. We go back and forth between them both as we will, treating them as one home with a couple of "outside hallways." We sleep wherever it is that we decide to sleep. It is not always in the same bedroom or in the same configuration for any of us. The way we do this and the combinations of us have changed over time and will again.

    I'm sorry if somehow your need to have this more clearly defined frustrates you...........well, actually, no, to tell you the truth, I don't really care if it frustrates you. We have no responsibility to respond to you....especially since you won't even identify yourself even with an Internet identity.

    All the best:)

    Tom

    Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you've imagined.

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  4. Anonymous1:43 AM

    Heh. It never fails...someone I know will tell me they want to know more about the relationships. And the first question is almost always do you all sleep in one bed or whose bed do you sleep in.

    I suppose that it's human nature to be fascinated by the sleeping habits of multi member families. I'm not usually as reserved as you are in answers...then again I talk too much and can be quite the comment whore...anyways I had a point.

    Adding children to the mix...well it does make it interesting. There have been many times that one morning it is one and the next the other...the children aren't in the least interested it seems and take everything in stride. We maintain two bedrooms, I generally sleep in either of them and when only one of them is home we use the main bedroom (I know you didn't ask for where we sleep, sorry) The boy children have no desire to get into bed with an adult..the girl children however sometimes do and either sleep with me if they are sick or something or once in a while any one of us will sleep on the couch with them to keep from disturbing another child or adult (we have a U shaped sectional so it makes it easy). Generally our rule is a sick child sleeps with mom, I am so lucky!

    When we travel (and we make long trips twice a year at least) it gets interesting. In order to conserve funds while on the road, and since we are only sleeping for a night in each hotel till we get there, we get one room and get creative.

    We sleep without night clothes unless a sick child etc. is in bed or we are on the road.

    Our children seem happy and healthy and comfortable with everything. I knew I was trying to say something. I suppose I said too much.

    I did however want to mention that based on the living arrangements you have discussed here, the side by side condos, we have actually considered a similar arrangement especially as our family is growing :) It is very difficult to find one house with enough bedrooms! There are many more duplexes than condos in our small town, with shared front porches and shared deck or back porch. Two three bedroom condos would work very well, but I am afraid I would go nuts wihout all my eggs safely in 'one' house at night. I know they would be under the same roof...but somehow...Mother Hen I suppose.

    I would prefer a single house with enough bedrooms for privacy, but that is a personal preference and based largely on what has already been working for us. I cannot say for certain that a new person would fit in as easily, but I have high hopes and a lot of confidence :)

    Thank you for letting me ramble...cold medicine should be taken when one goes to sleep, not while one is blog reading!

    magdala~

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  5. Anonymous11:29 AM

    Just to clarify I'm the anonymous who gave you the inspiration to out me in this post. I'm yesterday's anonymous. Not the first anonymous in today comments section. I don't have a blog because I just got here. I was in an abusive marriage and finally got out with my children. I still am unable to sleep at night because I've always shared my bed with my ex husband but he is too combative for me to safely live my life to think about having him in my bed again. I stumbled on your blog and was intrigued. It struck a chord in me. I think when I read blogs and how open the author is I didn't give a second thought in asking yesterday's questions. So here I am apologizing. I'm sorry if I offended you. That wasn't my intention. I just wanted to learn more. That's all.

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  6. magdala -- come and ramble on anytime you want... You bring the perspective, that we lack, of doing poly living with resident children. And you validate what I suspected would be true, which is that if the grown ups are all cool with it, then the kiddos would be as well...

    I can well imagine that finding a "single-family" home (even the language is biased away from us isn't it?) that is big enough to accommodate your brood might be a challenge. We find our two-condo set up nice in many ways: two kitchens, two garages, multiple bathrooms, lots of closets, multiple options for entertaining... Of course, there are drawbacks, too. Like it is snowing like crazy and the laundry is here but the washer is there... Ick! Oh well. Life has its challenges. We mostly like it just fine.

    Thanks for chiming in.

    swan

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  7. schiava -- glad to have you here. Please feel free to come back as often as you like. You will find that we are just sort of a bunch of "regular" people living a sort of "alternative" life.

    Glad to meet you.

    swan

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  8. anonymous person #2 (Yesterday's Anonymous Person) -- sorry if that is confusing... but I am trying to distinguish between the two of you. I am sorry if you felt you were "outed" in this post. That was not my intention. All I intended to do was further the discussion that your question brought up and further the thinking that you started in me. You, having just stumbled on my/our blog, don't know me well, but that is what I do. If you ask me a question, I'm going to think about it, wonder about what you asked, and quite possibly, answer it at some level. I didn't find your honestly asked question offensive -- a little more "forward" than most people tend to be perhaps, but that's OK with me. I happen to know (or at least sincerely believe) that you asked the question that most people have on their minds.

    Also, if you stick around (and you are surely welcome to do that), you will find that I am quite capable of setting my own boundaries -- as I did in my answer to your question. I will speak to THIS, but not to THAT. I'm just fine with doing that. Doesn't bother me in the least, and I'll tell you what I consider to be private, and what I'm willing to talk about. No offense taken at all.

    That's the part that, apparently, bothered the OTHER anonymous person -- the one who seems to think that IT has the right to know anything IT wants to know about me/us just because IT can formulate the question -- or because someone else can. Doesn't work that way. This is MY place. I make the rules. Say what you like. Ask what you like. Read as much as you like. The more of YOU that you bring to the exchange, the more of me and us, you will likely find that we are willing to share with you. That's how relationships work.

    I hope you stick around and let us get to know you better.

    swan

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  9. Anonymous12:50 PM

    Not a question I would have asked swan, however the answer helps me to know you all a bit better, which can't be bad.
    Hugs. :-)
    Paul.

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  10. Anonymous1:22 PM

    Heh, never give me an open ended invitation to ramble!

    We actually contemplated a single master bedroom with multiple beds. But the privacy doesn't always work out...Himself and I do things that we don't do with others because of the power exchange. On the other hand, they both are gone all week anyways and it's just me here! It's only on weekends that we have a full house.

    Right now, the house is not entirely suitable (especially as we grow), but there are a lot of rooms and places to go within it even if they are smaller rooms. Main level, upstairs and basement level. All areas are suitable for living space, so even with the near dozen we can be if every single person that is in the family is here, we can spread out.

    I think another difference is that y'all came together as grown adults with (and I am assuming here) seperate households to merge, furniture, stuff, etc. We had one regular household and Himself was recently divorced and thus purged of all but the basics....

    Now her, a recent college graduate with little of her own in the way of big stuff. I think we can make it blend because I am the one who has co-ordinated what all is needed for the running of the household and the availability to different people.

    We do not have half a dozen crock pots, for example but we do have 11 computers, laptops included. We also have half a dozen tv's although they are all rarely being used.

    Master & slave we may be, but Himself considers the Home to be my domain and responsibility. If it needs curtains, I purchase them, if we neeed additional glasses, they are bought. etc. If I make a list of things that need to be done in order to make everything run smoother or better (outside work, inside repairs etc) I turn the list over to them and they take care of it all. I suppose I am the site foreman and they are the company owners. So to speak.

    The most difficult thing we have had to work on constantly..is His children, they are grown and were not as accepting as the younger ones were. Our lil'girlies have never know anything other than three parents, and the boy children don't remember much from when it was just two. When it is something you have always known and accepted, you don't view it as strange I suppose.

    I have to admit, there are nights still, even now, that I have no idea where to sleep and wind up sleeping half the night in one bed and half the night in another or on the couch even! It's not all easy, but mostly it works.

    magdala~

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  11. Anonymous1:24 PM

    *suddenly awestruck by the thought of TWO garages and enough space for everyone to have a place to park INSIDE*

    magdala~

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  12. Anonymous2:56 PM

    I'm so sorry to ask this but being English, I have to .... duplex???? condo???
    I understand house and apartment or flat. Can someone translate for me?!!!

    Littoral
    xx

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  13. Littoral -- condo is short for condominium. It refers to a sort of aggregate housing arrangement that is similar to apartments except that people own the units rather than rent them. Condo's are generally thought of as single story housing options although they may be built in multi-story buildings. Owners buy the units and then share the ownership of the property on which they are situated. Sometimes, one hears the word "townhome," which generally refers to a multi-level unit that is purchased in the same way. Some townhomes may also have a small bit of yard that is owned along with the actual unit.

    "Duplex" refers to two housing units joined together in some fashion -- either side by side, or sometimes one above the other. They then share a single, typically fairly large lot. Owners buy one half of a duplex, and may own half of the lot, or share in it equally, depending on how the land contract is written.

    I hope that helps.

    swan

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  14. Yes... And there are times, Gabriel, when we sigh wistfully at the dream of some acres off somewhere where we could put "the house" that would do all the things we dream of, and where we'd be away from the prying eyes that we sometimes find oppressive here in our congregate housing setting. Of course, that dream gets burdened with the realities of how we'd continue our careers, manage the ongoing relationships with His elderly parents, stay in touch with His almost but not quite grown son, on and on and on... Each situation has its advantages and disadvantages. We adapt and adjust and find ways to make it work for us, as you all are.

    swan

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  15. Anonymous8:31 AM

    Thanks Swan - much clearer :0) Two nations separated by a single language, huh?!!! :0)
    Littoral
    xxx

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